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but not dictions sufficient to take the taxes up. we hope the middle class will have a tax reduction even with the elimination of deductions and putting a cap on deductions actually gives more credibility because you can give the middle class more deductions. the governor also said if you have more incomes, you pay lower caps, in other words $17,000. the idea that taxes on the well-to-do and the successful and those who are making a lot money will not go down. middle classing we hope they will stay where they are, or come down. coming down is a possibility. the important part of this tax plan, is to remember, when you earn, say you earn $200,000 and you have $20,000 worth of deductions, so now you paying tax on $180,000. if you paid tax at 35 percent rate, obviously the rate will be below $35 percent because you do not pay on full $200,000. governor romney is saying reduce that rate and every dollar you earn offer the amount that uses up the tax deductions, you will pay the lowest rate on. it will encourage people to earn more money,
but not dictions sufficient to take the taxes up. we hope the middle class will have a tax reduction even with the elimination of deductions and putting a cap on deductions actually gives more credibility because you can give the middle class more deductions. the governor also said if you have more incomes, you pay lower caps, in other words $17,000. the idea that taxes on the well-to-do and the successful and those who are making a lot money will not go down. middle classing we hope they will...
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we have to look at what are the canadian taxes? the european taxes? the tacks in -- tax in vietnam in when you shop you do fault say i will only buy that if it is made in america. if we want our economies to succeed they have to compete with vietnam companies. >>neil: but if he is saying that i am going to lower taxes but it may not be what it appears because i will take away breaks which is fine for simplified tax code, et cetera, does he risk alienating a base that did not trust him? that he was serious about the big reagan-like cut in taxes. >>guest: my discussions is he understands we are competing and he knows we have to reduce our taxes. >>neil: who was he reaching out to? >>guest: you have to ask him. >>neil: independent voters? >>guest: he understands we are competing and he understands we have to have he we are taxes. if we have more jobs in america, and we want american businesses to do well, we have to is lower taxes than the rest of the developed world. if we don't, brings are going to go out of this country. >>neil: as a former health car
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on middle income families by 4,000 a year, and this commitment i make to you, i will not raise taxes on middle class families. while governor romney and his wife ann as you saw there were meeting with the crowd in florida, president obama also on the campaign trail this sunday, fund raising in hollywood. more on that in a moment. but first, john roberts is travelling with the romney campaign and john, with the rally late today, governor romney wraps up the florida swing. >> and three days here in the sunshine state. big rally in port st. lucie, 12,000 people one of the biggest crowds of his campaign so far and this state is beginning to friend this his direction. in fact, nationally, democratic leading policy poll found he gots a 5 point bounce out of that debate and the governor looking ahead to the next presidential debate, but as he left florida he couldn't help taking a parting shot at president obama's performance last wednesday. >> so i'm convinced that you all had the chance to hear his answers or his nonanswers. now, of course, days later we're hearing his excuses and next ja
on middle income families by 4,000 a year, and this commitment i make to you, i will not raise taxes on middle class families. while governor romney and his wife ann as you saw there were meeting with the crowd in florida, president obama also on the campaign trail this sunday, fund raising in hollywood. more on that in a moment. but first, john roberts is travelling with the romney campaign and john, with the rally late today, governor romney wraps up the florida swing. >> and three days...
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right now that's what our tax system does. we underwrite and subsidize the recklessly irresponsible through bailouts and insurance companis and car companies. the fact is, people who are working hard and doing well. and small business owners and big business owners who are not asking for uncle sugar to work for them they are getting punished. change that and we can get out of the debt problem. governor mike huckabee always a pleasure to have you on board. >> thank you, uma. >> he raised the bar and it is mitt romney's job to live up to the standards. >> you can't have a down moment. >> we see it in the polls. the polls are change things are getting closer and mitt romney is in the league. they saw them for the first time together . he cannot let down. >> my one on one with michael reagan, the son of a president many people credit with historic debate moments. ♪ [ male announcer ] it started long ago. the joy of giving something everything you've got. it takes passion. and it's not letting up anytime soon. at unitedhealthcare
right now that's what our tax system does. we underwrite and subsidize the recklessly irresponsible through bailouts and insurance companis and car companies. the fact is, people who are working hard and doing well. and small business owners and big business owners who are not asking for uncle sugar to work for them they are getting punished. change that and we can get out of the debt problem. governor mike huckabee always a pleasure to have you on board. >> thank you, uma. >> he...
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on top of the extension to the bush tax cuts. >> i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut. of a scale that you're talking about. i will not reduce the share paid by high income individuals. i know that you and your running mate keep saying that and i know it's a popular thing to say with a lot of people burks it's just not the case. look, i got five boys, i'm used to people saying something that's not always true. >> health care, romney was on offense, touting what he passed in massachusetts as an example of a bipartisan compromise and a model for the whole country at the state level. >> we've seen this model work really well. in massachusetts because governor romney did a good thing, working with democrats in the state to set up what is essentially the identical model. >> i like the way we did it in massachusetts. entirely on a partisan basis instead of bringing america together and having a discussion at this important topic, you pushed through something that you and nancy pelosi and harry reid thought something was the best answer and drove it thr
on top of the extension to the bush tax cuts. >> i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut. of a scale that you're talking about. i will not reduce the share paid by high income individuals. i know that you and your running mate keep saying that and i know it's a popular thing to say with a lot of people burks it's just not the case. look, i got five boys, i'm used to people saying something that's not always true. >> health care, romney was on offense, touting what...
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we don't want to tax more people with bad tax policy. we want to grow the middle class and get people back to work with higher take home fay. the secret to this is economic growth, chris. the premise of the conversations and tax reform point is as if the economic pie is fixed and that it is governments if job to redistribute the slices. is not how the world works. we want to grow the pie and we want economic opportunity. we want people to be able to get a better job and have more income security and higher take home pay and you can do that through economic growth and that is what we are trying to provide and what we can get if we put the progrowth policies in place. >> chris: a number of top republicans say that when romney picked you as his running mate a little over a month ago that they thought that this indicated that you guys were going to run a bold reform agenda campaign and now expressing some frustration that instead of you changing romney you heard this that they feel that romney is changing you and you are running a much more
we don't want to tax more people with bad tax policy. we want to grow the middle class and get people back to work with higher take home fay. the secret to this is economic growth, chris. the premise of the conversations and tax reform point is as if the economic pie is fixed and that it is governments if job to redistribute the slices. is not how the world works. we want to grow the pie and we want economic opportunity. we want people to be able to get a better job and have more income...
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and the republicans out campaigning, they're just as accountable, and the taxpayers have to foot the tax bill and never get a say in it. >> more sadly to me is the fact that the president goes on tv the other day and says, well, the debt and the deficit in the country, now, that's a problem in the long term, but it's not a short-term problem. the truth the average american understands the truth. the american government can't spend itself rich just like the american family want spend itself rich. if just the debt is a long-term problem, if you wait till the long term, the kinds of changes you'll have to make, the kind of cuts, the kind of cracking-down are unbelievable by the standards that if we deal with this today it is not that big a deal. >> greta: governor, they're not even working on it. i mean, nothing is being done by anybody to work on it. absolutely zero. >> in all fairness, nothing has been done by barack obama. i mean, barack obama hasn't introduced a budget in three years that a democrat would vote for, but paul ryan has. >> greta: if i were a republican right now, i'd be he
and the republicans out campaigning, they're just as accountable, and the taxpayers have to foot the tax bill and never get a say in it. >> more sadly to me is the fact that the president goes on tv the other day and says, well, the debt and the deficit in the country, now, that's a problem in the long term, but it's not a short-term problem. the truth the average american understands the truth. the american government can't spend itself rich just like the american family want spend...
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i will not raise taxes on small business and not raise taxes on middle income families. >> reporter: he will spend a little more time in florida and campaign here tomorrow and he has been doing a bit of debate prep with rob portman, the senator from ohio and his debate sparring... playing the role of mr. obama and, monday, big foreign policy speech at the virginia military institute in virginia, and criticizing the president on foreign policy with specific criticisms of the way in which the administration handled the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya, meant to signal romney will continue to attack the president on the economy, and jobs, but, also on foreign policy and all of the issues, of being commander-in-chief. in the 2012 campaign. >> arthel: thank you very much, a big crowd waiting for mitt romney and the president had no public events today but his campaign says that it has noted stopped him from shattering a major record. carl mentioned this earlier. september fund-raising ended at $181 million. topping his previous record by nearly $70 million. it's the biggest
i will not raise taxes on small business and not raise taxes on middle income families. >> reporter: he will spend a little more time in florida and campaign here tomorrow and he has been doing a bit of debate prep with rob portman, the senator from ohio and his debate sparring... playing the role of mr. obama and, monday, big foreign policy speech at the virginia military institute in virginia, and criticizing the president on foreign policy with specific criticisms of the way in which...
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is romney really not seeking a $5 trillion tax cut? will people be able to keep their health insurance under the president's plan? >> i always kind of approach it from they're both lying to me. so now i have to figure out which one is lying to me less and basing my decision on that. >> reporter: so i guess the question that i have that maybe you can't answer is why can't you make up your minds? >> they all said the rest of the debates are even more crucial. after watching round one, perhaps significantly change the entire race. ron allen, nbc news, denver. >> aides to mitt romney say he will spend part of today preparing for the next presidential debate, which is scheduled for october 16th. the president's team says he hasn't held any formal debate practice sessions since wednesday, and is spending today celebrating his 20th wedding anniversary. with me now is our brain trust panel, perry bacon jr. is an msnbc contributor and political editor at thegrio.com. jennifer rubin writes the right turn for the "washington post." and tara mcgui
is romney really not seeking a $5 trillion tax cut? will people be able to keep their health insurance under the president's plan? >> i always kind of approach it from they're both lying to me. so now i have to figure out which one is lying to me less and basing my decision on that. >> reporter: so i guess the question that i have that maybe you can't answer is why can't you make up your minds? >> they all said the rest of the debates are even more crucial. after watching...
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basic tax policy, et cetera. mr. romney also plans to point out that the president has been saying, you know, well, some parts of the economy are doing okay and that the recovery is underway. here is mitt rom know camera one of those ads where he speaks directly to the people, no big music and pictures of others that sort of apple pie and motherhood stuff. this is mitt romney saying what he thinks. >> too many americans today are struggling, living paycheck to paycheck. more americans live in poverty than when president obama took office. >> and the follow-up to that the next line in the ad and the next line in the debates will be that the country simply cannot afford another four years. and this contrast that mr. romney is putting forth about what he refers to as the obama agenda's dependency society one which big government and debt continues to grow and people lose their liberty and opportunity as entrepreneurs and business people to make their own prosperity versus what is he promising less government, less debt
basic tax policy, et cetera. mr. romney also plans to point out that the president has been saying, you know, well, some parts of the economy are doing okay and that the recovery is underway. here is mitt rom know camera one of those ads where he speaks directly to the people, no big music and pictures of others that sort of apple pie and motherhood stuff. this is mitt romney saying what he thinks. >> too many americans today are struggling, living paycheck to paycheck. more americans...
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on the middle class and reduce the taxes on the rich. romney took the beginning of that debate and attacked each of the points and demolished them. again, all that came from negative advertising. i think what he did last night is he dissolved $150 million of negative ads and turned them to dust. >> bill: do you have any idea why barack obama didn't mention the 47% comment? >> i was immediately struck by the fact last night in the commentary that's the first -- that's the first thing i mentioned because it was shocking. that is the best weapon that obama and he didn't use it the only possible explanation is that h he is so far ahead he can sit on a lead. he doesn't need to take something that could be dangerous. because, if you get too tough, you are the incumbent, you are ahead and you get tough on the other guy. that he could be seen as negative. it could hurt obama's ora. this cool unflappable guy. that must have been the reasoning because there is no other reason. it makes no sense at all. >> bill: you don't have to do in a mean-spiri
on the middle class and reduce the taxes on the rich. romney took the beginning of that debate and attacked each of the points and demolished them. again, all that came from negative advertising. i think what he did last night is he dissolved $150 million of negative ads and turned them to dust. >> bill: do you have any idea why barack obama didn't mention the 47% comment? >> i was immediately struck by the fact last night in the commentary that's the first -- that's the first thing...
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for the rich and tax the middle class. you see ad after that and they are both false. i think he needs to look at the camera straight. explain in a sentence or two why each is completely false. to then turn to the president and ask him how he can premise his entire election on way of presenting the romney position that is so at odds with the truth. so, bit of defense. then i think he goes on offense. that i think is something he has to do because those images of him as kuing the taxes to the rich to -- and putting burden on the middle class is killing him. >> bret: panel, as always, from different parts of the country, thank you. steve, juan, charles. that's it. but stay tuned for final look ahead from denver as we get ready for this big night tomorrow night. [ female announcer ] food, meet flavor. flavor, meet food. it's time for swanson flavor boost. concentrated broth in easy to use packets. mix it into skillet dishes, for an instant dose of... hell-o! [ female announcer ] get recipes at flavorboost.com. droid does. and
for the rich and tax the middle class. you see ad after that and they are both false. i think he needs to look at the camera straight. explain in a sentence or two why each is completely false. to then turn to the president and ask him how he can premise his entire election on way of presenting the romney position that is so at odds with the truth. so, bit of defense. then i think he goes on offense. that i think is something he has to do because those images of him as kuing the taxes to the...
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my tax reform plan to lower rates for the middle class anand for small business creates seven million more. and expanding trade, cracking down on china, and improving job training takes us to over 12 million new jobs. i'm mitt romney, and i approve this message. 7 news at 11, on your side. captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> the search is on for a missing since monday. held at the high school. she joins us from our newsroom. an emotional day today. emotional for the parents and classmates. been atugh he had only the high school for a month, the community are .earching for him at the local pizza shop. ,ight after the homecoming game together tocame of oner the safe return of its own. bryan glenn is missing. >> i am most broke down. it was tough. >> he finished -- vanished monday morning. was spotted about 8:00 that moment at the dunkin donuts. his car was found in a nearby park. says there has been oractivity on his cell phone bank accounts. they need the public's help. >> there are a number of people that are likely to have seen something. >> police ha
my tax reform plan to lower rates for the middle class anand for small business creates seven million more. and expanding trade, cracking down on china, and improving job training takes us to over 12 million new jobs. i'm mitt romney, and i approve this message. 7 news at 11, on your side. captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> the search is on for a missing since monday. held at the high school. she joins us from our newsroom. an emotional day today....
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particularly domestically in terms was tax policy. this is how mr. mitt romney after president obama and the vice president joe bide boid for his suggestion that yes, indeed democrats do want to raise taxes. >> the paths we take our nation down are quite he for instance will raise taxings. hi vice president blurted out the truth. it is trillion when you put them together. >> the mitt romney campaign motor cade is now in sight. you will hear the crowd start to roar as they welcome the republican nominee. he will spend - on >> carl cameron's shot froze up. it is live television. as governor romney takes the stage we'll go back to carl. >> a major development to actul about in an effort to tell you why our ambassador and others were not better protected. the house oversight committee issuing subpeonas for a hearing next week. we knew that but we are hearing now what is on the list. we'll see lieutenant colonelandy wood. and colonel wood was in charge of a 16-member special forces security team recall protecting the forces. and also tonight defense secre
particularly domestically in terms was tax policy. this is how mr. mitt romney after president obama and the vice president joe bide boid for his suggestion that yes, indeed democrats do want to raise taxes. >> the paths we take our nation down are quite he for instance will raise taxings. hi vice president blurted out the truth. it is trillion when you put them together. >> the mitt romney campaign motor cade is now in sight. you will hear the crowd start to roar as they welcome...
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obama and biden want to raise taxes by a trillion dollars. guess what? yes, we do. and one regard... we want to let that trillion-dollar tax cut expire so the middle class doesn't have to bear the burden of aural of that money going to the super wealthy. that's not a tax rate -- that's called fairness, where i come from. >> greta: well, we are back with our political panel. sam, this will be edited as a yes we do, they will cut off the end on that one. >> you know, i imagine -- i would give anything to hear the conferrings after this happens between the vice-president and the president. i imagine it's a lot like with my ex-girlfriend, after a while, they are tired of hearing i'm sorry. it doesn't cut it anymore. look, it's going to be -- it is going to come up. the middle class is getting buried -- >> greta: see, i think that's the worst one, the buried one, don't you? >> mitt romney very subtly used the buried one. it was just perfect. he was talking about how bad the economy and was the middle class has taken it particularly heard hard, they have been burr buried.
obama and biden want to raise taxes by a trillion dollars. guess what? yes, we do. and one regard... we want to let that trillion-dollar tax cut expire so the middle class doesn't have to bear the burden of aural of that money going to the super wealthy. that's not a tax rate -- that's called fairness, where i come from. >> greta: well, we are back with our political panel. sam, this will be edited as a yes we do, they will cut off the end on that one. >> you know, i imagine -- i...
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because gasoline tax pays for the the roads. i believe that's probably the best principle overall to deal with the questions and post office. >> claire mccaskill if >> i'm going to try to quote todd akin exactly on this. he said, we can keep raising the prices, if they get too high, the private sector can take over. i disagree. it is in the constitution. we have had the finest and the most reliable and most comprehensive postal service in the world. they have cut billions in expenses over the last several years. they have shrunk their woforce. what they've been required to do is prefund their pensions and healthcare for 75 years. no one in the private sector is required to prefund their pensions and healthcare for 75 years. no one in the governmental sector except the post office is required to do that. it's got them into a cash flow problem. we have to uncuff them and allow them to be entrepreneurial when it comes to the growth area postal service. i will tell you, mr. miller, you know this and many in this audience know this,
because gasoline tax pays for the the roads. i believe that's probably the best principle overall to deal with the questions and post office. >> claire mccaskill if >> i'm going to try to quote todd akin exactly on this. he said, we can keep raising the prices, if they get too high, the private sector can take over. i disagree. it is in the constitution. we have had the finest and the most reliable and most comprehensive postal service in the world. they have cut billions in...
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i don't have a tax plan that is 4.8 trillion, i am not going to cut taxes on the rich. i don't have a voucher plan, i love teachers, i think we need more of them. don't believe me, speaker gingrich was eloquent in the primaries, saying that mitt romney will say absolutely anything to get elected. >> the president had 90 minutes, now, if he had done his homework and prepared, if he had actually studied romney, why didn't he say it? virtually every analyst has said, and even your deputy campaign manager has said the charges -- was made wrong. forgetting that for a second, the job of the president is supposed to be able to be competent and to stand up for what he believes in and articulate what is wrong. mitt romney walked over him. >> and alex, you mentioned the president is air born to the golden state, a star studded concert with katy perry, and tuesday, campaigning in ohio, meanwhile, mitt romney had a rally last night in florida and stays in florida for a second day, more campaign events later in that swing state. >> yeah, i think you left out george clooney, because
i don't have a tax plan that is 4.8 trillion, i am not going to cut taxes on the rich. i don't have a voucher plan, i love teachers, i think we need more of them. don't believe me, speaker gingrich was eloquent in the primaries, saying that mitt romney will say absolutely anything to get elected. >> the president had 90 minutes, now, if he had done his homework and prepared, if he had actually studied romney, why didn't he say it? virtually every analyst has said, and even your deputy...
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in fact, when you do those sorts of tax cuts there are costs to those tax cuts. the big etan drivegest driver r deficit -- >> chris: if i may, sir. you are talking about half of the planet it would be like talking about obama's jobs plans and saying the entire are plan is to give more money to teachers. it is not obama's plan. similarly you are mischaracterizing the romney plan. saying you're right there is $5 trillion lowering the tax rates but he talks about cutting loopholes. but that is part of the plan. >> but he won't say, chris, which loopholes and which deductions. senator, i doubt seriously you would be if favor of doing away or cutting the home mortgage deduction for middle class americans. governor romney has not said what the plan is for paying for the $5 trillion in tax cuts just like he won't talk about what his tax returns have been or -- >> with all due reis spect, governor, first of all, governor romney made is clear in the debate and he was actually able to speak directly to the american people that he is not going to lower the burdening on up y
in fact, when you do those sorts of tax cuts there are costs to those tax cuts. the big etan drivegest driver r deficit -- >> chris: if i may, sir. you are talking about half of the planet it would be like talking about obama's jobs plans and saying the entire are plan is to give more money to teachers. it is not obama's plan. similarly you are mischaracterizing the romney plan. saying you're right there is $5 trillion lowering the tax rates but he talks about cutting loopholes. but that...
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so let's hear him explain the tax policy. >> the cut in tax rates is lower -- all american tax rates -- >> how much does it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> it's not revenue neutral unless you take away the deductions. the first half, lowering the tax rates. does that cost $5 trillion? >> no, no. look, i won't get into a baseline argument with you. >> you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all the math. >> all right. you know what, mitt? you better put paul ryan away somewhere. send him to a sports bar somewhere in ohio. at least he can have a few beers with voters. he's got that going for him. who knows, it might help make inroads with that 9% deficit romney is facing against the president in the latest ohio poll. then again, there may not be enough time to do enough shots with enough intoxicated fans before voting starts in ohio tomorrow. so if his running mate is no use, how about a boost from the other person mitt's proposed to, his wife, ann. surely she can provide the comfort and confidence that mr. romney needs
so let's hear him explain the tax policy. >> the cut in tax rates is lower -- all american tax rates -- >> how much does it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> it's not revenue neutral unless you take away the deductions. the first half, lowering the tax rates. does that cost $5 trillion? >> no, no. look, i won't get into a baseline argument with you. >> you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go...
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the crowd angry about tax hikes and spending cuts among the 17 nations and the euro currency. >> and china, that flying fire, just part of the drill, but a pretty intense one. the exercise focusing mainly on island dissent. and participants, both military and civilian. >> ukraine, an enormous gathering in the capital city for a morning exercise routine, young and old, stretching and flexing, following the lead of a group of actors on stage. that's a wrap on this fox trip around the world in 80 seconds. an earthquake in part of the country where maybe you wouldn't expect it, tonight we're hearing from the people who felt it. and bears, really? do i have to say anything else? they're so cute. hmmm, this one is hungry. and invading one suburban neighborhood. [ mother ] you can't leave the table till you finish your vegetables. [ clock ticking ] [ male announcer ] there's a better way... v8 v-fusion. vegetable nutrition they need, fruit taste they love. could've had a v8... when the doctor told me that i could smoke for the first week... i'm like...yeah, ok... little did i know that one
the crowd angry about tax hikes and spending cuts among the 17 nations and the euro currency. >> and china, that flying fire, just part of the drill, but a pretty intense one. the exercise focusing mainly on island dissent. and participants, both military and civilian. >> ukraine, an enormous gathering in the capital city for a morning exercise routine, young and old, stretching and flexing, following the lead of a group of actors on stage. that's a wrap on this fox trip around the...
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taxes and cut everyone's income tax by 20%. the math doesn't seem to add up there. the other striking thing being he picked paul ryan, the man known for putting out -- at least more details than mitt romney, but he has not embraced. ryanism to me, at least, the core is we're going to be detailed about what conservative policy means. romney's not embraced that at all. >> good luck tonight. thank you both. new next, tick tock, tick tock. let's clear the air from a mile up. look, if you have...